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Friary Park Estate regeneration

We have been notified by our landlords, Catalyst Housing Association, that the Friary Park Estate will be regenerated. Apparently demolishing and starting all over again is a better option than refurbishing as 'the homes are draughty and expensive to heat...) These homes are less than thirty years old, surely it would be cheaper to refurbish? I live in one of the town houses that face on to Emanuel Ave rather than one of the flats. I have been a tenant since they were built, I moved here in 1989. I have asked if the houses are going, too, and apparently they are. There is nothing wrong with the buildings, they only need some cosmetic work. Also, as people have moved out of the houses they have been completely ripped out and refurbished for the new tenants, surely needless expense if they are being demolished. I suspect that the real reason for demolishing is a more intensive build on the land. The houses have garages and small gardens, the lower flats have small gardens, too and the houses face onto courtyards. I am sure these will all be built on. I have just Googled Friary Park regeneration and find a tender has been put out for the work and find that 100 extra properties are being planned as well as the existing 250 and that there will be a mix of properties for sale and rent. The present properties are rented as social housing. So it seems I may be right. I didn't believe that Catalyst would undertake such major work out of consideration to their tenants, living in their 'draughty homes'. Obviously there is much more money to be made from the land. Apparently the estate was built for private sale but was purchased instead by Catalyst, hence the gardens and garages, I am sure we would not have those otherwise!  We have not yet been told what will happen to us, only that we will not be made homeless. How thoughtful of Catalyst! Where will they move 250 households to? And now an extra hundred homes may be needing schools in an area where schools are having problems accommodating the ever growing number of pupils. There will be a display of plans on Saturday 6th September in Friary Park Community Centre from 10-3.

Helen Lloyd ● 4416d89 Comments

Dear Angela & Objectors to the proposed demolitions, etcI was wondering if there are any usable covenants on the proposed development land  - for instance against buildings of a certain height or against shops, etc.  I believe that there are a number of adjacent houses which are not owned by the developers, Catalyst Housing Association Limited (formerly "Acton Housing Association Limited" *) and if there are any covenants, we can check if any other landowners can possibly enforce them.*I once assisted the former Chairman of the Association, who lived in Ealing and did not want a homeless hostel in the road (now a Conservation Area).I am currently attending the 5th day of the CPO Hearings re. land in and around the Cinema opposite the Ealing Town Hall.  The proposals by Land Securities (who are seeking to oust Empire Cinemas) are much larger than the original ones and frankly, they are a disgrace and would result in devastating effects on residential and commercial properties in the area containing magificent Conservation Area properties dating from the 1870s and 1900s (including the YMCA Building - which is to be demolished).  The LBE Planners seem to have turned a blind eye to all this (truly making a mockery of Conservation and Heritage Local and National Policies), as there are obviously millions of pounds to be made by a small group of businessmen well known to the Council. Objectors are due to speak at the Hearing in a couple of days' time.As soon as the Hearing is completed, I would like to meet local Acton objectors and look at any planning documents and leasehold and freehold land deeds relating to the Friary Park Estate.  The triangle of green space is I understand "Highway Land" and therefore subject to public access. Not far away, I did assist residents of Fells Haugh/Springfield Court and also the firm Teevans to defeat 8 planning applications both at the Car Wash land in front of Teevans at 219 Horn Lane and at Fells Haugh/Springfield Court itself.What seems extraordinary is that sound housing of attractive dark red brick is all being mercilessly destroyed and people are being uprooted and evicted from their homes of over two decades, I believe.These Housing Associations appear perhaps to be getting too big for their boots.

Victor Mishiku ● 4159d

Lisa,This is the 4th of 4 'workshops' that Catalyst have hosted which were supposed to be taking in feedback from residents. Only a rough plan (1 x 20 storey tower, 2 x 14 storey, 2 x 10 storey, 3 x 8 storey, 6 x 6 storey, and a number of 2-5 storey blocks around the perimeter) has been presented so far. I lost count of the number of times residents from both the estate and from the surrounding areas told Catalyst 'NO TOWERS WHATSOEVER!' at the sessions so hopefully they will act on this when they unveil their final plan on Thursday and Saturday.Only Friary Park residents were invited to the first session as it concerned the living units, the second and third sessions concerned the remaining aspects of the build so were open to all residents in the area, although turn out was very low (around 9 people per Thursday session - they were repeated on the Saturday). We were alarmed to find such low attendance at the sessions and therefore fear that the consultation is flawed because of this. Many residents claim to not have been made aware of these sessions, and it sounds like you might be in the same boat? Is that the case?I for one only received part 3 of the 4 part newsletter that Catalyst claim was delivered to over 2,300 people and my flat backs directly onto the estate. I had to go looking for details of the 'workshops' in this forum.I have queried the coverage area for newsletter delivery with Catalyst but haven't received any response.I would strongly advise attending one of the final planning sessions if at all possible. It should not be too late to have your feeling on the matter heard. Details of the final session have been published in a separate thread which is titled accordingly.

Chris Petrie ● 4161d

I wonder if there are some covenants applicable on the land of the Friary Park Estate owned by Catalyst?If so, and even if they have been breached before, the skyscrapers, shops, etc would be a fresh breach and possibly actionable if the covenants are for the legal benefit of neighbouring properties such as those in "The Drive" not owned by Catalyst (I believe, formerly Ealing Family Housing Association Limited) and if the new development would be a new departure from them.Residents on the "Elms Estate, Ealing & Acton" obtained a High Court Injunction against EFHA Ltd in May 1991 in respect of a detached Victorian dwellinghouse at 18 Freeland Road, Ealing Common.This followed a Lands Tribunal Hearing where there were 114 objectors (owners of houses in about 5 or 6 roads on the same Estate).  The freehold covenant imposed in 1915 prevented use of the properties as "institutions" or for anything that may cause an "annoyance".  The developers (EFHA) wanted to set up an ex-prisoners hostel for about 14 ex-offenders or persons under Home Office orders.The term "annoyance" in covenant law can include: Loss of Views, Loss of Sunlight to plants or a doorway caused by a high fence, The apprehension over the use of a property, etc.At the current CPO Hearing at Ealing Town Hall over the attempt by Ealing Council and Land Securities to usurp the owners of the Cinema as landowners, the Government Inspector has already questioned some of the opinions of Ealing's planning and property experts and their distinguished architecural adviser!

Victor Mishiku ● 4161d

Yes, Chris, we did receive a tick box form from Catalyst asking questions regarding the draughtiness, expense of heating and so on, as well others such as whether we felt safe in the area, our satisfaction with living here etc. I didn't bother to complete the form at first as I am in one of the houses and the believed the questions related more to flats on the estate and also that taking part in the 'survey' was optional. However, if I remember correctly I received another copy of the form and was told that this information was required and that if I didn't provide it a Catalyst representative would call round to assist me to complete the form, so I complied. I then heard about the regeneration plan from a friend with a connection to Catalyst so I phoned the area housing manager and asked if this was the plan. She told me that it was an option but unlikely and that nothing had been done about it yet, if anything it would be years before any action was taken. She said the buildings were not up to modern standards and needed lifts for tenants with mobilty issues. Some time after that tenants received a letter saying that Catalyst were considering either refurbishment or regeneration. That's when I decided to Google 'Friary Park regeneration scheme' as I was convinced that the homes would go to make way for a far more intensive build and found that tenders had long before gone out to companies for regeneration, this spurred my first post on this forum thread. Unfortunately it is all  very clear now.

Helen Lloyd ● 4161d

I went to one of the Catalyst workshops this morning.It’s obviously very easy to baulk at the so-called ‘Landmark’ 20-storey tower which is on the drawing board, however, this has all the signs of a classic diversionary tactic; while we’re all objecting (as we should) to a cloud-kissing tower block, we are in danger of missing the fact that the smallest building starts around 6 storeys and rises in steps to 8, 10, 14 and finally the Landmark 20.When one considers that the present buildings and surrounding neighbourhood are generally in the region of a maximum of three storeys – the new development would start at twice that height, which is already too high.There were about nine of us at the meeting this morning, and all of us objected to the height and scale of the development. The area around the Friary Park estate is populated with mainly semi-detached dwellings with some larger town houses down Emanuel Avenue.  Dumping a development of this magnitude onto this site is hardly going ‘fit-in’ with its surroundings.Catalyst are also planning to have a through-road leading from Horn Lane to Friary Road and also closing off the road by Friary Green to extend the green space. Because, they say, Ealing council want the estate to be more integrated with the surrounding area. This will mean that the quickest and most convenient way to and from Horn Lane/Friary Road would be this new through-road. We were assured that ‘traffic calming’ measures would be put in place – I commented that no amount of ‘traffic calming’ would stop people in cars speeding down their nice new road. We have a big problem in Friars Way/Friary Road with speeding traffic, even though it is a 20mph zone with speed bumps like ski-slopes.

ken white ● 4189d

This is the response I received from Catalyst to the query I mentioned earlier: Essentially, it is as per my original notes, though they didn't make the retention of the 4 bed homes clear to us then: 1.“To reduce the number of homes on the estate by one third”Assuming this reference is to the number of social rented homes:This is not the case. We are proposing to demolish 224 of the 239 social rented units. Under the current proposal 15 x 4 bed social rented homes are being retained. Our proposal is that 224 new social rented homes would be built but they will not be the same mix of numbers of bedrooms. This is because many of the current residents are overcrowded but we also want to create a more sustainable balanced community on the new development.The proposed new mix of flat sizes is a balance between the housing needs of the current community and Ealing’s planning policy. The result will be 224 new social rented homes, but more bedrooms and bed spaces for social rent than are currently on the estate. 2.“One third of the current tenants will not be able to return to the estate” This is not the case. In our current proposal approximately 69 households in Phase 1 will need to move off site to facilitate the commencement of the redevelopment. In Phases 2 and 3 the majority of residents will be able to move straight into their brand new home.  Residents who move off the estate will have the opportunity to return if they want to, when a suitable home becomes available, and we will make every effort to meet their needs. Our experience on other regeneration projects is that everyone who wants to return is able to do so as people often settle well in the accommodation they have moved to, and  prefer not to move again. We will include a reminder of the above in the “Rumour buster” section of our new Newsletter, and check that staff are consistently briefed for workshops. Thank you for drawing this to our attention.

Sanya Sheikh ● 4191d

Thanks for your efforts and updates, Chris and Sanya.  My husband went along to the meeting 10 days ago as well.We too had no idea there were towers of 14, 13, 12 and 10 stories.  The 20 storey tower is definitely smoke and mirrors exercise to detract from the other monsters on site.  My husband said they used the excuse that towers were built in North Acton, as you've said.  Let's be clear about this - North Acton is and was, essentially, an industrial site.  There are very few low level houses in that area for those towers overlook.  The area around Friary Park is a residential area.  Our home would be dwarfed by these buildings and privacy a thing of the past.The grassy "triangle" north of the site Catalyst mention is not a grassy patch of land but a mini-park to the area, available to all of us, not just those on the Friary Park estate.  As for sectioning off a sympathetic triangular piece to face that mini-park - too little as a compensation, thank you, (get your own green space, do not pinch ours!) and in no way compensates for the lack of green space in their proposals.  Furthermore, if they section off that area off (it becomes theirs rather than for everyone, surely) and close the small slip road.....where on earth is that traffic going to go?  It may be a "small slip road" to them, but it is a major road through Central Acton to Horn Lane and the A40, so no thank you!I've written to Daniel Crawford and the 2 other Councillors for Acton Central. Daniel has replied and will engage with Catalyst with residents' views, so please do email him and the other 2 with your views.  There is no Residents' Association in our area.  We need one.  I would love to be more active, but cannot be without forfeiting sleep time.  Is there anyone out there who would be willing and able to form a RA for us?  I would be an active member, of course, and do what I can.  I do not, however, have the time to set-up the association, unfortunately.  Anyone?

Angela White ● 4292d

Spoke with Chris Patterson of Catalyst at the consultation, plus an architect, and gleaned this:Density- Currently approx 290-300, many vulnerable people.- Just above 100% uplift so about 650 units- 50% social housing, 50% private- The main tower will be 100% private housing- 1 car parking space for every 3 units/3 parking spaces for every 10 units- I was told the current units were badly insulated and often 1 beds so weren't up to par with current standards. I suggested with the issues around Spare Room Subsidy, 1 beds should be in demand and received no real response I can report back onEvidence Base- I asked if they would release their evidence base - stats on how the residents felt re. the housing, demographics of the estate, how many vulnerable residents etc. They said  that they would try and get me something Transition- I asked about where the vulnerable people would go, and was told some may stay, some may go elsewhere, based on the central points-based Housing app- Usually, if the residents are expected to stay in situ, they are all moved into the a building whilst the development takes place around them. If this was the case the people from Phase 1 would be moved to Phase 4, where the buildings are not currently at full capacity. I was told that was possible, but unconfirmable (sorry, not a word, I know!)- I mentioned that moving vulnerable people away from familiar surroundings and habits could (will) impact their psychological health and recovery. I was told things were complicated by a priority list of housing that the Council runs, and therefore it is in the Council's hands.- I asked if there will be 'voluntary redundancy', as it were, so people who want to move (apparently lots are unhappy) can be moved first and received no real response I can report back on Tower Height- When I suggested the tower clearly has contingency built in and asked what number of stories they where actually planning for, they wouldn't give me an explicit answer, but Chris Patterson also didn't challenge my assumption and said there will come a point when the site won't become viable in terms of return of investment- I was told the towers alongside the  20 story tower are 14, 13, 12 and 10 stories. My gut feeling is the 20 story one is not just so, for example, a 16 story goes through on the basis of 'concessions to consultations', but also to take the focus of the debate- The precedent they are citing are the towers in North Acton, which has very little low-rise housings, presumably this will set a precedent then for towers along Horn Lane south of the Crossrail Station- When I pointed out the 20 story tower in the illustrations were actually 22 story, the top two to house the vents and lift mechanisms, I was assured the tower would be 20 all in and the illustration was a mistake- I was told the height has been stepped down to ensure the surround residential streets to the south take the least amount of impactHeritage- I questioned the poor quality of design (very flat and untextured frontage) of most developments, and the architect seemed to engage quite well with this- The site was a Walls Ice Cream factory previously, and there are thoughts of using that heritage to bring character to the development. Another architect there to answer questions suggested creating a factory style roof on the tower, to which I said - quite obviously I thought - that at 20 stories no one would be able to see it- I was told that before Walls the site was an orchard and that they are thinking of using that to guide their planning and planting Open Space- The open spaces are gardens in the crescent towards the residential street and about (if I'm not mistaken) 8 gardens in the centre perhaps private, perhaps shared, perhaps communal.- There is a grassy triangle to the North of the site which exists now, they mentioned they might section off a sympathetic triangular piece facing the current one and ask the Council to close the small slip road which would be in between so the development has a square park, with kids climbing frames etc. Not ideal next to a road coming off the A40, but let's see.- I suggested allotments so the residents can  grow their own veg (gardening would also really help in any rehabilitation programs) we discussed that they do so on the roofs, so that whatever green space there is on the ground floor stays open and usable. The architect seemed to like that.Green Tech- I didn't see any solar panels etc. and asked for their plans re sustainability and clean technologies etc. I was told this would be decided and put into the application- They did mention they were looking at a system the Germans use which is essentially a centrally controlled climate. I pointed out people needed to have windows that can be opened at will for fresh air, and they said this climate control system worked better if the climate could be completely controlled.Public Meeting- I asked if they would come to a meeting. I was told they didn't feel a top table and cinema style seating was a good way for them to gather their feedback. I did say it wasn't about feedback, but questions answered and they said they'd think about Their parting message was that the details will be decided upon at the point of application and that they will be staying on to manage the development so have an interest in making sure residents are well consulted and as happy as possible.Hope this helps! Please do join CANForum, the local neighbourhood planning forum for Acton, simply and for free here: surveymonkey.com/s/PNJF7MT Follow us to Twitter here @CentralActon You can contact me here: chair@canforum.orgThanks v much,Sanya

Sanya Sheikh ● 4295d

I also went to the consultation on Friday and was very disappointed to see the density of the build (increasing from 200 plus to 400 plus homes) and the design consisting of different sized blocks with very little green space. When I questioned the 20 storey building the Catalyst representative said that the Council encourage high rise as they have a backlog of people to house - she then went on to say that the high rise would be for private residents to avoid any problems of antisocial behaviour associated with high rise living and social housing!  When I queried the parking, Catalyst are providing little, assuming that most people will be travelling by Crossrail.  As far as the problem of providing school places and medical care for new residents is concerned, as Catalyst are paying a levy to the Council it would appear that they do not consider this their problem.  When I questioned the need for demolishing the existing homes, she said that when they were built in the 80's they were not up to spec and so were all sold off to a Housing Association. Apparently they have electric heating and are single glazed and the residents complain that it is expensive to keep them warm. From memory, these houses were built by Laing Homes for the private sector and were marketed as luxury homes. I remember we had a change of Council from Conservative to Labour at the time of their completion and the whole stock was sold off to a Housing Association.  They were officially opened by Neil Kinnock.

Maria Pettit ● 4298d

I attended the session from 6-7 on Friday. Only the drawings that were in the news letter were available. They have nothing more than that at this stage and are trying to gage the reaction, through sessions such as this, before they approach the local council and start paying architects for finalized plans.I kept trying to get some firm figures out of them i.e.  what will be the percentage increase of people living on the site? How much is the development expected to cost and therefore how many private sales need to be made?  How many units of each size will there be? Ignoring the biggest tower, what is the proposed height of the other blocks over 4 storeys that are towards the A40 side. None of these questions could be answered. The message they were giving is that they can only do the redevelopment if they can raise enough money by getting sufficient numbers of people on site. When I asked what this number was they said that it is not known yet. Following on from this I was saying that the tower of course had to go. Their response was that the units lost from this would therefore need to be added back elsewhere. I then responded that if any lost units MUST be added back then they must know how many total units are needed to finance the build. Again they claimed that this number is unknown. I think the numbers are known but are not being shared.I can only really conclude that, as we probably already suspected, at this stage they are simply planning towards absolute maximum capacity. All they care about at this stage is financing the build and getting as much money from the site as possible, nothing more.There was a town planner that joined the conversation and tried to tell me that a high rise building overlooking neighbouring properties would increase their value. Once I had stopped laughing and had then picked my jaw up off the floor I corrected him (unbelievable!). I asked about green spaces and barely any could be pointed out. They pointed out the proposal for 'green roofs' which of course are pointless for people at ground level. They mentioned that some green roofs mat be used as terraces which, on top of the balconies, would provide even more opportunity for overlooking. All permieter blocks will be 4 storeys therefore dwarfing neighbouring 2 and 3 maximum houses. I could go on.... but to summarize, there were no positives whatsoever from this session, just many more negatives. If people don't sufficiently oppose this plan they will be going ahead with it as shown in the sketches.

Chris Petrie ● 4301d

I am lost for words.  I've seen the proposal.  Are they for real?  This has to be a joke....this is the 21st century and it's been proven that tower blocks do not build communities.  I don't give a hoot that tower blocks are common in North Acton....all the more reason to have one less!  I have applied to join CAN.  I have emailed Catalyst with a complaint.  I have emailed Catalyst to ask to attend their 4 Workshops on this matter.  I urge others to do the same.What else can we do?  I am happy to chain myself to the railings to stop this happening, seriously.  Feel very strongly about it.  It's a new-ish estate, crime has reduced, measures have been taken to put right those aspects residents have complained about and they are, I'm told, much happier living there.  It's a money making exercise which pays no attention to the residents' needs.  The "brochure" I saw was vague - lots of unspeak, non-specifics.  One of the sentences is "Residents have expressed low levels of satisfaction with their homes on Friary Park and most of the issues that they are dissatisfied with cannot be addressed by refurbishing the existing buildings".  Really?  Talk about vague.  "Low levels of satisfaction"?  That's not exactly saying "we're really dissatisfied and unhappy" is it.  What specifically are those low levels of satisfaction regarding and how can't they be addressed, other than knocking the whole area flat and erecting shed loads of homes?  Additionally, Catalyst state they will "design the new area to reduce crime and anti-social behaviour".  Crime is already down.  How specifically are they going to do this?  Where are our Ealing Borough Councillors on this one?  I see they haven't posted.  I miss Vlod Barchuk.  Worth his weight in gold.  Vlod, if you're reading this, what are your thoughts please?Anyone want to join me in chaining myself to the railway line there?

Angela White ● 4311d

Preview MessagePlease review your post. If everything is OK, click Submit below. Otherwise,click the Back button on your browser to make corrections.Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration Message:Thanks all for the information. I have registered with CAN and will be happy to contribute to any further action.A couple of days ago a sent a compliant to Catalyst regarding the proposal and today I got a reply to which I have counter replied. Sanya - I will forward details of the conversation, once it is concluded, to the account you provided.In summary the reply was more of the same from what was in the news letter plus the following...."There are already a number of tall buildings in North Acton and both the Mayor’s and the Council’s planning policies indicate that they will look favourably on future applications for higher buildings in the area to meet the demand created by Crossrail."...I was of course quick to correct Catalyst that the bulidings next to North Acton station, which is a purely business and commercial area where the tall buildings do not overlook resedential properties, is in no way the same as the proposition at Friary Park. I find their view on this naive to say the least.I will certainly be attending any future development meetings. The 3rd edition of the newsletter was the first that I have received and I wasn't even aware of the development before that which shows that not everybody in the area is aware of what is being planned. To that point I also find it strange that the development plan 3rd edition ie. the first mention of a 20 storey high rise, is not available on the Catalyst website. Last edition available is August. Very convenient!I am happy to provide any assistance on the matter if required. If anybody wants to contact me to discuss or help in any way my email address is chris.petrie@gmail.comI would encourage everyone to send a complaint to Catalyst. It can't hurt to start letting our feelings be known as early as possible....http://www.chg.org.uk/residents/all-residents/complaints-and-suggestions/contact-form/Good luck!ChrisForum Home

Chris Petrie ● 4312d

Sara is right, Central Acton Neighbours' Forum should be able to help. We're in the process of being designated (more on than below), but, once we are, the main aim is to write local planning policy from a local perspective. It's a bit of a long haul given that the document we produce, the 'Neighbourhood Development Plan', will need to be researched, created and consulted on from scratch, but in the meantime the forum can raise community objections and faciliate conversation with the council and developers re. consulations etc.You can join CAN here: surveymonkey.com/s/PNJF7MT It's free and the form is very simple. It also tells you a bit about the Forum. Plus, there's lots of info on Neighbourhood Forums out there which you can google.I agree with Chris that, as well as joining our Forum, you should organise yourselves into a residents' association and hold a meeting asap. Also, I'm happy to have a think and see what we can do immediately. Perhaps we can meet to discuss.Re. where you'll be housed, generally speaking, the developer chooses one building to remain standing and moves tenants into it whilst the other work is completed. Though, I don't know if this is likely to be the case here.I mentioned the Forum is in the process of being designated. If you have a moment have a look through our application to the Council: http://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/1004/planning_policy/1377/neighbourhood_planning/6You'll see your road is in the boundary we're look to include. If you like the idea of a Neighbourhood Forum and decide to join CAN, it would be great if you would send a note of support to the council officer in charge, Steve Barton, to arrive no later than 26 NOVEMBER 2014:bartons@ealing.gov.ukorSteve BartonPlanningPolicy ManagerEaling CouncilPerceval House, 4th Floor14/16 UxbridgeRoadEaling W5 2HLIf you'd like to get in touch with me by email - perhaps you can send me whatever the developer has sent you so far - you can email chair@canforum.orgHope that helps,Sanya

Sanya Sheikh ● 4316d

I am also shocked to see the 20 storey block and intensive building that has now been proposed. I attended the meeting in September and spoke to Catalyst staff and the architect and have been told that our houses at the end of Emanuel Ave and also Antilles House will almost certainly not be demolished, although they did point out that things may change. We were told the buildings would not be high rise and that there would be a distance between the new buildings and our homes and gardens that will be overlooked, also that the buildings would be positioned in such a manner that there would not be windows on the sides facing the back of our homes. Looking at the drawings in the latest update newsletter it seems that will not be the case, in fact the new flats look very close at our end of the road in the Catalyst owned houses, but a little further back from the private properties, probably because the gardens are larger. So now they are trying to convince us that high rise is the way to go! Maybe penthouse living in wealthy areas, not social housing on estates - have no lessons been learned? Apparently the flats that back on to Emanuel will be four to six storey buildings and the tower block will be closer to the station, but of course that could all change again. The plans are due for submission in April. I agree completely that Crossrail is  Catalyst's catalyst! At the meeting the Catalyst representative and the architect both spoke enthusiatically about the great  advantages of Crossrail to us! When you look at aerial pictures of the estate you can see how small it is really, and the new design has buildings crammed in, most of the green areas removed and what appears to be roof gardens, I presume these will be on the properties for sale and the Catalyst tenants will have a balcony. We are told that everyone will have an outdoor space, but the architect has said there will be no gardens, just balconies.  Some residents at the meeting were distressed at being told they will be unlikely to be rehoused on the new development as their needs have changed in that their families have grown up and they are deemed to no longer need more than one bedroom, there won't be many one bedroom flats in the new plans. Sorry to rant on for so long but I feel strongly about this, it's a big money maker for Catalyst, though when I put this to their staff I was told that in order to finance the new homes for tenants they would have to build many new homes to sell. It appears that the estate is spreading out onto local land, so I would advise local residents to keep up to date with the scheme, it may impact on you too!

Helen Lloyd ● 4316d