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Jim - I really enjoyed looking at that!  I also got info that I hadn't been aware of.  David, it might explain why my worms are at the top of the compost bin and the wormery......it's autumn and they're mating!Bob, we put tea leaves, tea bags (we're currently aiming at stopping using bags), peelings, leaves from veg, veg choppings, fruits, any fruit or veg that's gone off (not very often hopefully), stale bread when not given to the birds, stale cake, ditto.  It does say any cooked veg, but there's never any left over.  It also says too much onion, leek, etc isn't good as they don't like it, so that goes on the compost bin (no idea what the difference is) but the wormery is enclosed so doesn't attract vermin.  I have heard that you can put meat in there but we don't  and any left over meat or bits goes in the green recycling box from the Council.  Our green recycling box is rapidly becoming redundant and we only put it out once every two weeks now and it's still then only half full.  Yes, the wormery is squirrel and fox proof, no idea about dogs but it doesn't smell so there's no indication of what's inside.  We also put toilet & kitchen roll innards in there slightly wet, some shredded paper or brown food bags, slightly wet again and anything that seems to be going "off".  I've put the occasional dead annual plant in there with some of the earth, for good measure.We've had our wormery for around 4 months now I suppose and it does say it takes around 6 months to get established (David will confirm this as he seems way ahead of me and very knowledgeable).  People mostly swear by them.  I believe it's quicker, once established, than a compost bin or heap.  We're just about to purchase a very slim fork designed for turning compost bins because we've been emptying ours out once every 6 months to turn them and this will be easier and quicker.

Angela White ● 7276d

Not sure what "the whole thing is a big con" is.  Is that composting or buying from supermarkets?  And what are the politicians getting up to behind my back that has to do with composting?  Yes, there is money to be made and the only con I can see is that of the supermarkets.  We don't question things enough.  The gas in those bags is to keep the lettuce fresh.  It is highly damaging and wouldn't be necessary if we didn't have to fly or ship the lettuce from abroad.....buy British if you can't grow your own.  You won't need gas in a bag then.  Also, think of the airmiles and pollution you are causing when your veg is flown/shipped in from so far.  Plus, not least, the veg has fewer vitamins and minerals as it has to be picked before it's ripe in order to travel so far.  The problem is we've become accustomed to having fruit and veg out of season and having exotic fruits, which are now for some just common place.  The price of that is that we add to air pollution.  What happened to eating seasonally?  Most of the packaging of our food is unnecessary.  You've just become accustomed to having it that way and we never question these things.  I agree, biodegradable packaging is what is needed.  It is possible, but costs money.  It's all about money and shareholders getting profits.  Some things are more important though, surely.The guy blowing his nose without a tissue.....you'll get that, but let's not generalise.....most people aren't like this and are civilised.Compost away is what I say - it's good for reducing Council landfills and collections of food boxes, it's good for you to grow your own plants in (or veg/fruit) and it's enjoyable.

Angela White ● 7269d

Bokashi Composters  use a mixture of bacteria, fungi and yeasts to safely compost your kitchen food scraps including meat, fish, fruit and vegetable waste. These small composters (19 litres) are supplied in pairs and will easily handle the kitchen waste from a large family. It is so efficient that even meat and fish scraps can be composted indoors without smelling. Granny Green Gardener has been trialling the Bokashi and this is what she says - "BRILLIANT! I love it because it's so simple and easy to use and it copes with meat and fish waste too."How does it work? "I collect kitchen waste in a small plastic bin (about the size of a small pedal bin) with a tap at the bottom. I put waste in once a day and then sprinkle "magic" bran over the top squidging it all down to make room for more. At the same time liquid is drained off through the tap at the bottom straight down the sink as it keeps the drains fresh. It smells like home brew or strong cider (it can also be used as a liquid feed)."What kind of kitchen waste? "Obviously fruit and veg. peelings including banana, citrus, onions and leeks (which aren't suitable for wormeries), plus teabags, coffee grounds etc. I've put in scraps of meat, fat and fish skins plus my grandson's left over tea and some out of date cream cake! I really like it's versatility. It does seem to be fool proof and I went away for a week and still no smells"When it's full-what then? "Into the 3rd week of filling up and still 10cms to go. The waste is more pickled than decomposed. When full, it can go on the compost heap without attracting vermin or into a wormery where it can be converted by worms into traditional compost and liquid feed. It can also be dug directly into the garden, where it will breakdown rapidly and enrich the soil naturally. If you haven't got a garden don't worry, empty it into your usual bin bag and then you will become aware of one of the biggest advantages of the system- the huge reduction in the volume of waste and no smells!"Verdict. "I'm a Bokashi bore now. It's so easy even a child could do it and it should be brilliant for all the Christmas dinner waste. Could make a good present too- open it in the morning and use it by lunchtime!" The Bokashi system consists of 2 parts :-  1.      The Bokashi Bucket (pictured left) - The composter itself is made from 85% recycled plastic and measures only 480mm (height) x 320mm (width) x 250mm (depth). The bucket comes with an air tight lid and has a sump and tap built into the base to allow excess liquid to be drained off. Each Bokashi Bin comes complete with with an airtight lid, handle, drip tray, plunger for pressing down the food, 600g of Bokashi Bran (see below) and a scoop.  2.      The Bokashi Bran - The Bokashi Bran is sprinkled over the kitchen waste and contains the bacteria, fungi and yeasts necessary to start the whole composting process. The Bokashi Bran is available in 600g bags which will last approx 2 months.The Bokashi System was developed in Japan and is a unique way of composting kitchen waste. As landfill sites fill up and councils talk about cutting roadside collections to once a fortnight or even charging by weight to take bags away, composting our own kitchen waste is becoming more and more attractive. On a daily basis, simply add your kitchen waste (including vegetable and fruit waste, meat and fish scraps, tea bags, coffee grounds etc) and sprinkle a little of the Bokashi Bran (containing the bacteria, fungi and yeasts) over the top. The bacteria, yeasts and fungi in the Bokashi Bran then get to work on the waste, kick-starting the composting process and eliminating nasty odours. Keep adding kitchen waste and Bokashi Bran, pressing it down as you go until the bin is full. Every 2-3 days, drain the liquid off from the bottom of the bin - this can be diluted down (1:100) and used to feed plants or poured down drains to clear pipes and stop nasty odours. The Bokashi Bins are sold in pairs - once a bin is full, leave it for 2 weeks to ferment and start filling the 2nd bin. After 2 weeks, the full bin will be fully composted. The Bokashi Compost will not look like traditional compost - it will look more like it has been pickled and will have a sweet and sour smell. The 2 bins are then alternated with one bin taking the fresh waste while the other is fermenting. After 2 weeks the Bokashi Compost is emptied out of the full bin and it can then be either composted further or added to the garden :-  1.      Add the Bokashi Compost to a compost heap where it will break down very quickly and because the waste does not smell it will not attract vermin. - CLICK HERE to see our range of garden composters.  2.      Add the Bokashi Compost to a wormery where the worms will convert the waste very quickly into traditional compost and liquid feed. - CLICK HERE to se our range of wormeries.  3.      Dig the waste into the garden (dug into trenches) where it will release bacteria and goodness directly back into the soil.

Bob Crossley ● 7249d

What a useful thread (and the 'Green Issues' thread too) - well done Angela J. for starting them off. Been having a peep at both - don't have any personal experience with  wormeries but can help with the following queries that were brought up:Jim - you don't need to take off the plastic windows on envelopes before recycling. A member of the Hounslow Recycling Team told me the whole envelope (with plastic window) can be put in the paper recycling either in your Green Box or in the paper containers at Recycling Centres. Egg shells in composters - Hounslow strongly advise not to put egg shells in composters as they attract rats and as there are is such a rat problem in this area, it's best to do all you can to stop them coming into your garden.  Toothpaste tubes - can be put in Hounslow's plastic recycling containers which are located not too far away. Information below is from CRAG (Chiswick Recycling Action Group):PLASTICS Containers for plastic recycling can be found in the car parks of the following local supermarkets:Sainsbury's, Essex Place, Acton Lane, Chiswick W4 5UTSomerfield, High Street, Brentford TW8 0JGTesco, Syon Lane, Osterley TW7 5NZThe following plastics are collected for recycling - please ‘wash and squash’ first: Plastic milk, water & drinks bottles & lidsMargarine / butter tubsPlastic detergent & cleaning fluid containersPlastic bagsPolythene and plastic packaging (including bubblewrap)Plastic food containers/ trays/ takeaway/ fast food containersPlastic yoghurt/cream potsPlastic toothpaste tubes(N.B. Items NOT collected: polystyrene, brittle plastics e.g. broken toys)

Catherine Woodman ● 7177d